[Rxtx] Rxtx Digest, Vol 43, Issue 7

[Kevin Harrington NR]

To answer a few of you, I have changed the license to "Other open
source license" as suggested. My company is modifying and maintaining
this fork to support our robotics development library
(http://code.google.com/p/nr-sdk/ http://dev.neuronrobotics.com). We
will be implementing the standard serial port interface only, as it is
the only one we need or care about. As for where the implementation
came from, i would have to refer to my other developer to answer that.
I wrote the build scripts and make files, as well as streamlining the
C build process. I have remover  the configure script, as it ends up
being more confusing then compiling 3 C files needs to be. if you guys
want to bring any of this into  the main line, that's cool, but up to
you to port over. Our fork will be focusing on polishing up the serial
interface,and hopefully making it faster. I hope some of you will find
our improvements useful!

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> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:50:33 -0500
> From: Jason Sachs <jmsachs at gmail.com>
> To: rxtx at qbang.org
> Subject: Re: [Rxtx] Rxtx Digest, Vol 43, Issue 6
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>> From: Kevin Harrington NR <kharrington at neuronrobotics.com>
>> To: rxtx at qbang.org
>> Subject: [Rxtx] NRJavaSerial, a fork of rxtx that fixes the papercuts!
>> Message-ID:
>> ? ? ? ?<AANLkTikahcYioCisT_YE=oMEP_2ZOGNJQt=2WigZL0FK at mail.gmail.com>
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>> Hey all, this is just a heads up that i have made a fork of
>> rxtxSerial. Some of the features we have added:
>>
>
> Why GPLv3 rather than LGPL? Our company won't touch GPL libraries with
> a ten-foot pole.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:10:43 +0200
> From: Kustaa Nyholm <Kustaa.Nyholm at planmeca.com>
> To: "rxtx at qbang.org" <rxtx at qbang.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rxtx] Rxtx Digest, Vol 43, Issue 6
> Message-ID: <C99B0703.649E%kustaa.nyholm at planmeca.com>
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> On 3/7/11 21:50, "Jason Sachs" <jmsachs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Why GPLv3 rather than LGPL? Our company won't touch GPL libraries with
>>a ten-foot pole.
>>_______________________________________________
>
> Oh crap, makes it useless for me and many others.
>
> Also I see no provision in RxTx license to change
> it so how could anyone change it to GPLv3?
>
> br Kusti
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:24:08 -0500
> From: Scott Howard <showard314 at gmail.com>
> To: rxtx at qbang.org
> Subject: Re: [Rxtx] Rxtx Digest, Vol 43, Issue 6
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> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Kustaa Nyholm
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>> Also I see no provision in RxTx license to change
>> it so how could anyone change it to GPLv3?
>
> I think this is allowed:
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:24:47 -0500
> From: Jason Sachs <jmsachs at gmail.com>
> To: rxtx at qbang.org
> Subject: Re: [Rxtx] Rxtx Digest, Vol 43, Issue 6
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> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Jason Sachs <jmsachs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> From: Kevin Harrington NR <kharrington at neuronrobotics.com>
>>> To: rxtx at qbang.org
>>> Subject: [Rxtx] NRJavaSerial, a fork of rxtx that fixes the papercuts!
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ? ? ? ?<AANLkTikahcYioCisT_YE=oMEP_2ZOGNJQt=2WigZL0FK at mail.gmail.com>
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>>> Hey all, this is just a heads up that i have made a fork of
>>> rxtxSerial. Some of the features we have added:
>>>
>>
>> Why GPLv3 rather than LGPL? Our company won't touch GPL libraries with
>> a ten-foot pole.
>>
>
> Let me back up a second (perhaps to make up for my lack of diplomacy)
> and state that I think any progress w/ rxtx is good.
>
> If an rxtx fork were LGPL (or some other non-spreading open source
> license) and leading in a good direction, I'd gladly return the favor
> by posting any improvements or bugfixes I found to the community.
>
> --Jason
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:36:13 -0500
> From: Jason Sachs <jmsachs at gmail.com>
> To: rxtx at qbang.org, kharrington at neuronrobotics.com
> Subject: Re: [Rxtx] Rxtx Digest, Vol 43, Issue 6
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> Kevin: could you clarify the license?
>
> http://nrjavaserial.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/nrjavaserial/src/main/java/gnu/io/CommPort.java
> has the RXTX 2.1 license
> (LGPL v 2.1 + Linking Over Controlled Interface.)
>
> but http://code.google.com/p/nrjavaserial/ says GPLv3.
>
> --Jason
>
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> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:00:02 -0500
> From: Kevin Harrington NR <kharrington at neuronrobotics.com>
> To: Jason Sachs <jmsachs at gmail.com>
> Cc: rxtx at qbang.org
> Subject: Re: [Rxtx] Rxtx Digest, Vol 43, Issue 6
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> The one downside to google code is that it does not allow custom
> licensing. You have to pick from a drop-down list. Treat the licences
> on the files themselves as the licence to be concerned with, and
> ignore the "project licence". Sorry for the confusion.
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Jason Sachs <jmsachs at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kevin: could you clarify the license?
>>
>> http://nrjavaserial.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/nrjavaserial/src/main/java/gnu/io/CommPort.java
>> has the RXTX 2.1 license
>> (LGPL v 2.1 + Linking Over Controlled Interface.)
>>
>> but http://code.google.com/p/nrjavaserial/ says GPLv3.
>>
>> --Jason
>>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:08:18 +1100
> From: iqzw2r602 at sneakemail.com
> To: Rxtx at qbang.org
> Subject: Re: [Rxtx] NRJavaSerial, a fork of rxtx that fixes the
>        papercuts!
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> Nice!
>
> Out of curiosity, did you use the patch that I sent Trent about two years
> ago to do the native library loading, or did you implement your own
> solution?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Uwe
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Kustaa Nyholm Kustaa.Nyholm-at-planmeca.com|
> rxtx.org mailing list/Example Allow| <cwv4krwhva0t at sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/7/11 19:47, "Kevin Harrington NR" <kharrington at neuronrobotics.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hey all, this is just a heads up that i have made a fork of
>> >rxtxSerial. Some of the features we have added
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> great! If also does what it says on the tin: brilliant!
>>
>> Congrats and thanks.
>>
>> br Kusti
>>
>>
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> From: Aaron Wolfe <aawolfe at gmail.com>
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> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Kevin Harrington NR
> <kharrington at neuronrobotics.com> wrote:
>> Hey all, this is just a heads up that i have made a fork of
>> rxtxSerial. Some of the features we have added:
>>
>> * Self deployment of native libraries ( all native code is stored
>> inside the jar and deployed at runtime). No more manual install of
>> native code.
>> * Arm Cortex support (Gumstix)
>> * Android Support (requires a rooted phone for now)
>> * Google Code (SVN) repository for easy code and jar access
>> * Single makefile compile (simplifies the compilation of project binaries)
>> * Ant build script for jar creation
>> * Removal of partialy implemented code to streamline the lib for just
>> serial port access
>> * Full Eclipse integration, for testing application code against sources.
>>
>> And a bunch of bug fixes:
>>
>> * Fixed the memory access error that causes OSX to crash the JVM when
>> serial.close() is cvalled
>> * Fixed the windows serial port zombie bind that prevents re-accessing
>> serial ports when exiting on an exception
>> * Fixed erronious printouts of native library mis-match
>>
>> To check it out, take a look at our page here:
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/nrjavaserial/
>
> This is interesting, getting the native libs set up has been an issue
> for some of my users.  Will have to check it out.
>
> Out of curiosity, what Android devices provide a serial port?  Or are
> there some that allow USB host mode and then a usb-serial adapter?  I
> have only an Android cell phone, don't think it can do anything serial
> but would love to be wrong about that.
>
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> From: Trent Jarvi <tjarvi at qbang.org>
> To: rxtx at qbang.org
> Cc: Jason Sachs <jmsachs at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rxtx] Rxtx Digest, Vol 43, Issue 6
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> Hi Kevin,
>
> Until Google fixes the options as developers have requested, I'd suggest
> the least misleading dropdown option is "Other Open Source" with a
> clarification about LGPL 2.1 on the project page.
>
> If you are not supporting the CommAPI SPI interface that was available
> prior to the current JSR so that applications work in the javax.comm
> namespace, there is no need for the linking over controlled interfaces
> exception.  RXTX 2.0 is used in that fashion but RXTX 2.1 is not.  The
> exception explicitly states it can be removed if the source has been
> modified.  The license is then explicitly OSI reviewed and approved as
> Google requests but is not in their drop down box as it should be and is
> for the GPL v2.
>
>        http://opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical
>        http://opensource.org/licenses/lgpl-2.1
>
> The drawback would be that the library effectively could never be used in
> that SPI/controlled interface fashion again.
>
> On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Kevin Harrington NR wrote:
>
>> The one downside to google code is that it does not allow custom
>> licensing. You have to pick from a drop-down list. Treat the licences
>> on the files themselves as the licence to be concerned with, and
>> ignore the "project licence". Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Jason Sachs <jmsachs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Kevin: could you clarify the license?
>>>
>>> http://nrjavaserial.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/nrjavaserial/src/main/java/gnu/io/CommPort.java
>>> has the RXTX 2.1 license
>>> (LGPL v 2.1 + Linking Over Controlled Interface.)
>>>
>>> but http://code.google.com/p/nrjavaserial/ says GPLv3.
>>>
>>> --Jason
>>>
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